Mann Suggests that 90 Year Old Dr Sam Glatt Wasn’t Capable of Writing the Letter that Condemned his Wrecking Tactics
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| Dr Sam Glatt at a Newcastle Labour Party dinner last year with Jeremy Corbyn |
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| The Ubiquitous John Mann – or ‘rent-a-mouth’ as he is known in the trade |
Update:
Following this post, John Mann rang Dr Glatt again today to try and get him to retract!! He denied saying that supporters of Jackie Walker should be expelled and challenged Sam for the source of his allegation. Well Sam is 90 and not as quick as he used to be so he referred Mann, whose actions are those of a bully and coward, to Graham Martin.
It is however understandable that Mann couldn’t remember what he said, so I will remind him. In an article in Politics Home, Mann said:
“enough is enough” and argued it was time for Labour to cut ties with her.
“Though she claims impunity for many reasons, Jackie Walker’s behaviour is discriminatory, provocative, offensive and by any standard unacceptable in a modern political party,” ….
“Not only has she caused offence personally, she has inspired waves of anti-Semitic and racist backlash including Holocaust denial.
“Not only must she be expelled from the Labour party immediately but all those abusing others in supporting her must go too.
“Temporary suspensions are not good enough, these people must be given permanent bans and no platform to express their antisemitism anywhere in the Labour party, if we are to be serious about opposing anti-Jewish hatred.”
Mann has now taken the whole Facebook post accusing wicked anti-Zionists of forging Dr Glatt’s name on the letter down! Instead Jonathan Hoffman, the former Zionist Federation co-Vice-Chair who is happy to work with the Jewish and English Defence Leagues, has leapt to his defence with a blog for The Times of Israel.
Mann has now taken the whole Facebook post accusing wicked anti-Zionists of forging Dr Glatt’s name on the letter down! Instead Jonathan Hoffman, the former Zionist Federation co-Vice-Chair who is happy to work with the Jewish and English Defence Leagues, has leapt to his defence with a blog for The Times of Israel.
Two days ago I published an Open
Letter from a 90 year old Jewish doctor, Dr Sam Glatt, to John Mann MP. Even by parliamentary standards, John Mann is widely seen as a boorish, conceited loudmouth. A rent-a-mouth who is attracted to publicity like a moth to the light. But not
even I imagined that instead of coming to terms with Dr Glatt’s trenchant
criticisms and rethinking what Dr Glatt termed his McCarthyite behaviour, Mann would instead decide to rubbish the letter by claiming
it was a forgery.
The thrust of Mann’s argument was that a 90 year old man wasn’t
capable of writing such an articulate and thoughtful letter. A letter that attracted (so far) over 33,000
hits on this blog alone. One would think
that someone who is so concerned about ‘anti-Semitism’ would think twice about ageism and bigotry to the old. But as we all know, John
Mann isn’t concerned about opposing anti-Semitism but supporting the Israeli state,
an armed superpower in the Middle East, the recipient of the largest amount of
US aid of any country and a state that maintains a viciously racist and oppressive regime over
the Palestinians.
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| John Mann conveniently denied that the letter was genuine |
Following reports today that the letter which
I had published on my blog
from Sam Glatt, a member of the Labour Party, had been forged
by Graham Martin, a Momentum member, I took steps to ascertain whether or not I
had published a forgery. It would certainly have been embarrassing if I had. Lots of posts had begun arriving from gleeful Zionists saying exactly that!
I had published on my blog
from Sam Glatt, a member of the Labour Party, had been forged
by Graham Martin, a Momentum member, I took steps to ascertain whether or not I
had published a forgery. It would certainly have been embarrassing if I had. Lots of posts had begun arriving from gleeful Zionists saying exactly that!
If the letter was a forgery then this was a
very stupid, as well as dishonest, act. Whoever was responsible should
have realised that the truth would soon be revealed. As I was preparing a response accepting I had made a genuine mistake, I was made
aware of a tweet from a Dr Alan Maddison, a friend of Dr Glatt, who insisted that
the letter was genuine. At first I was
sceptical as John Mann’s explanation
seemed convincing.
very stupid, as well as dishonest, act. Whoever was responsible should
have realised that the truth would soon be revealed. As I was preparing a response accepting I had made a genuine mistake, I was made
aware of a tweet from a Dr Alan Maddison, a friend of Dr Glatt, who insisted that
the letter was genuine. At first I was
sceptical as John Mann’s explanation
seemed convincing.
After corresponding with Dr Maddison it was
clear that there were grounds for questioning whether the the letter was a
forgery. Alan gave me the phone number of Dr Glatt and I
spoke to both him and Graham Martin. It
became clear to me very quickly that the original letter was not a forgery and I
copy below both the first letter and a second draft letter, which Dr Glatt has written backing up the first.
clear that there were grounds for questioning whether the the letter was a
forgery. Alan gave me the phone number of Dr Glatt and I
spoke to both him and Graham Martin. It
became clear to me very quickly that the original letter was not a forgery and I
copy below both the first letter and a second draft letter, which Dr Glatt has written backing up the first.
Even John Mann is going to have difficulty
alleging that the second letter is a forgery since it is written, in best
doctor’s handwriting (!) by Dr Glatt himself.
I just hope that Mr Mann is hungry as he has an awful lot of humble
pie to consume.
alleging that the second letter is a forgery since it is written, in best
doctor’s handwriting (!) by Dr Glatt himself.
I just hope that Mr Mann is hungry as he has an awful lot of humble
pie to consume.
John Mann’s allegations of a forgery are
classic Zionist tactics. It’s all an anti-Zionist conspiracy! Attack the
messenger and avoid the message. Instead
of coming to terms with what Dr Glatt was saying, that he was falsely accusing people
like Jackie Walker and Ken Livingstone of anti-Semitism and also destroying the
chances of Labour electorally, Mann did what we have come to expect from
him. He sought to evade the message by attacking
the man. Further comment on Mann’s behaviour
would be superfluous.
classic Zionist tactics. It’s all an anti-Zionist conspiracy! Attack the
messenger and avoid the message. Instead
of coming to terms with what Dr Glatt was saying, that he was falsely accusing people
like Jackie Walker and Ken Livingstone of anti-Semitism and also destroying the
chances of Labour electorally, Mann did what we have come to expect from
him. He sought to evade the message by attacking
the man. Further comment on Mann’s behaviour
would be superfluous.
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| Mann was so annoyed he had been rumbled that he repeatedly phoned Graham Martin, a friend of Dr Glatt, who helped him compose the letter. |
Below is:
i.
A draft of
the second letter which Dr Glatt wrote
A draft of
the second letter which Dr Glatt wrote
ii.
An biographical
article by Dr Alan Maddison about his friend, Dr Sam Glatt
An biographical
article by Dr Alan Maddison about his friend, Dr Sam Glatt
iii.
The original
letter which John Mann MP believes is a forgery
The original
letter which John Mann MP believes is a forgery
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| A typical Zionist tweet gleefully announcing that it was us wicked anti-Zionists who had invented this calumny against the saintly John Mann MP |
Draft Letter From Dr Sam Glatt to John
Mann MP
Dear Mr Mann,
Thank u for your
letter. First let me say that my
previous letter was a joint letter with Graham Martin. If the language appears to be robust in
places I can only reply that the incidents you were involved seriously undermined
the character of 2 people, Jackie Walker and Ken Livingstone and diminished the
chances of victory in the forthcoming general election.
letter. First let me say that my
previous letter was a joint letter with Graham Martin. If the language appears to be robust in
places I can only reply that the incidents you were involved seriously undermined
the character of 2 people, Jackie Walker and Ken Livingstone and diminished the
chances of victory in the forthcoming general election.
Graham Martin shared
my concerns and was a great help in assembling the facts in such a case. It is physically difficult for me to visit
people but I am in full possession of my mental faculties. I am not a puppet of Graham’s.
my concerns and was a great help in assembling the facts in such a case. It is physically difficult for me to visit
people but I am in full possession of my mental faculties. I am not a puppet of Graham’s.
There is one
word in your letter which is a sheer invention.
I’ve never said that I despise you
or hate you as you suggested. I find your
views that people should be expelled from the party for supporting Jackie Walker
abhorrent and your propagation of them incomprehensible to me. This has to stop.
word in your letter which is a sheer invention.
I’ve never said that I despise you
or hate you as you suggested. I find your
views that people should be expelled from the party for supporting Jackie Walker
abhorrent and your propagation of them incomprehensible to me. This has to stop.
In my opinion
this undermining of Corbyn and supporters by weaponising anti-Semitism repeatedly
has to stop. It damages the Labour Party
and offends many of its members. If a
forthright letter from me can stop this I will have achieved my objective.
this undermining of Corbyn and supporters by weaponising anti-Semitism repeatedly
has to stop. It damages the Labour Party
and offends many of its members. If a
forthright letter from me can stop this I will have achieved my objective.
Yours
sincerely,
sincerely,
Dr Sam Glatt
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| A sample of the many messages I received today from the Zionists. All of them KNEW that Dr Glatt’s letter was a forgery because Israel is beyond criticism and anti-Semitism is ubiquitous in the Labour Party |
An
89 year old Jewish friend finds anti-Semitic attacks on Corbyn ludicrous. By
Alan Maddison
Alan Maddison · @alanmaddison20
I asked Sam, a retired Jewish GP, for his reflections as he
happens to be a Jeremy Corbyn supporter.
happens to be a Jeremy Corbyn supporter.
He, like many other Corbyn supporters are understandably
dismayed at what they see as this ‘smear campaign’ with no convincing basis in
fact, against this man of principle and peace. They see their hopes being
hi-jacked by these attacks. Some Corbyn supporters have launched a campaign
publishing photographs of many other British politicians with characters such
as Pinochet (allegedly involved in state torture and murder), members of the
Saudi royal family (allegedly involved in creating ISIL and ignoring human
rights) with the heading ‘Guilty by Association’ to make their point.
dismayed at what they see as this ‘smear campaign’ with no convincing basis in
fact, against this man of principle and peace. They see their hopes being
hi-jacked by these attacks. Some Corbyn supporters have launched a campaign
publishing photographs of many other British politicians with characters such
as Pinochet (allegedly involved in state torture and murder), members of the
Saudi royal family (allegedly involved in creating ISIL and ignoring human
rights) with the heading ‘Guilty by Association’ to make their point.
‘Twitter’ exchanges about Corbyn’s meetings with those who
encourage terrorism, have not been very helpful. The fact that Corbyn has never
encouraged, nor condoned violence, and for decades has been a genuine promoter
of peace, cuts no ice with his Jewish critics. Neither has it helped when
Corbyn explains that in order to have peace you have to talk to people whose
view you do not share, as was necessary for Northern Ireland. Nor does is help
that he thinks the Holocaust was the most vile event in history and that he
says he is not anti-Semitic.
encourage terrorism, have not been very helpful. The fact that Corbyn has never
encouraged, nor condoned violence, and for decades has been a genuine promoter
of peace, cuts no ice with his Jewish critics. Neither has it helped when
Corbyn explains that in order to have peace you have to talk to people whose
view you do not share, as was necessary for Northern Ireland. Nor does is help
that he thinks the Holocaust was the most vile event in history and that he
says he is not anti-Semitic.
Last night I went to see Sam, a wise old (89 years) Jewish
friend. Sam is a very intelligent and thoughtful man whom I admire enormously.
I was interested in getting his reflections on this disturbing conflict of
views regarding their claim that Corbyn is an anti-Semite. Sam is a retired GP
and a supporter of Jeremy Corbyn would you believe?
friend. Sam is a very intelligent and thoughtful man whom I admire enormously.
I was interested in getting his reflections on this disturbing conflict of
views regarding their claim that Corbyn is an anti-Semite. Sam is a retired GP
and a supporter of Jeremy Corbyn would you believe?
Sam told me that father was a refugee from Hungary in 1900
and his family lived in the East End of London. They were very poor and not
always treated well by the local ‘gentiles’, but Sam said it was a case of a
punch in the face rather than a knife attack as can happen to other immigrants
(rarely) today. At the time of the Moseley marches in the 1930’s he was only 13
years old, but he remembers that the only support the Jewish community got was
from the Communist party, all the other parties turned a blind eye, and some on
the right were even supporters of fascism.
and his family lived in the East End of London. They were very poor and not
always treated well by the local ‘gentiles’, but Sam said it was a case of a
punch in the face rather than a knife attack as can happen to other immigrants
(rarely) today. At the time of the Moseley marches in the 1930’s he was only 13
years old, but he remembers that the only support the Jewish community got was
from the Communist party, all the other parties turned a blind eye, and some on
the right were even supporters of fascism.
Apparently Jeremy Corbyn’s parents were themselves in
movements showing solidarity with the Jewish community at this time – ironic
that the child of such rare friends to our Jewish community is now treated in
this way by some of our own.
movements showing solidarity with the Jewish community at this time – ironic
that the child of such rare friends to our Jewish community is now treated in
this way by some of our own.
Sam, of course, talked about the horrors of the war. The
hopeless fleeing of fascism, the dreadful concentration camps, the millions
slaughtered so cruelly by the fascists, including innocent children. He said “
do you know they actually made these poor victims pay a fare before putting
them on these cattle-wagon trains to take them to the concentration camps?”
hopeless fleeing of fascism, the dreadful concentration camps, the millions
slaughtered so cruelly by the fascists, including innocent children. He said “
do you know they actually made these poor victims pay a fare before putting
them on these cattle-wagon trains to take them to the concentration camps?”
After the war, in which all his family in Europe were lost,
Sam said that the fear of the Jewish people was that the holocaust could be
repeated. No country had opened their door to the Jews fleeing fascism before
the war. This is why they are vigilant for any rebirth of anti-Semitism that
could eventually grow so that history is repeated. There is understandably a
lot of strong emotion when anti-Semitism is suspected and it makes rational
dialogue in the case of these unfair slurs on Corbyn almost impossible.
Sam said that the fear of the Jewish people was that the holocaust could be
repeated. No country had opened their door to the Jews fleeing fascism before
the war. This is why they are vigilant for any rebirth of anti-Semitism that
could eventually grow so that history is repeated. There is understandably a
lot of strong emotion when anti-Semitism is suspected and it makes rational
dialogue in the case of these unfair slurs on Corbyn almost impossible.
This terrible fear of Jews, that history is repeated, is why
the birth of Israel was so important and why its protection today is vital for
them. Sam adds though that it was so unfair to punish Palestinians for what
German fascists had done to European Jews!
the birth of Israel was so important and why its protection today is vital for
them. Sam adds though that it was so unfair to punish Palestinians for what
German fascists had done to European Jews!
Many Jews also do not now accept the brutality too often used
by Israel government against the Palestinian people. Many Jews desire, as most
of the World, the protection of the State of Israel alongside a separate viable
State of Palestine.
by Israel government against the Palestinian people. Many Jews desire, as most
of the World, the protection of the State of Israel alongside a separate viable
State of Palestine.
The only means by which this can be achieved is by the sort
of dialogue that Jeremy Corbyn undertakes. He should rather be thanked. It is
ludicrous to describe Jeremy Corbyn as anti-Semitic, rather ask how could he
fail to be moved by the plight of the people of Gaza?
of dialogue that Jeremy Corbyn undertakes. He should rather be thanked. It is
ludicrous to describe Jeremy Corbyn as anti-Semitic, rather ask how could he
fail to be moved by the plight of the people of Gaza?
In trying to help an oppressed minority, as his parents did
for the Jews, he is also trying to facilitate a peace that would reduce the
anxieties and victims of Israelis under the threat of attack.
for the Jews, he is also trying to facilitate a peace that would reduce the
anxieties and victims of Israelis under the threat of attack.
These unjustified attacks on our friend, Jeremy Corbyn, can
only create tensions between the Jewish people, here or in Israel, and the
peaceful Corbyn supporters whose vision, ironically, is for a fairer, kinder
Britain.
only create tensions between the Jewish people, here or in Israel, and the
peaceful Corbyn supporters whose vision, ironically, is for a fairer, kinder
Britain.
By Dr Alan Maddison • @alanmaddison20
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Original Letter to John Mann MP
Dear Mr Mann, 18/10/2016
It is with a sense of deep distaste personally,
and an even deeper concern for the future of our freedom of speech, generally,
that I have viewed your recent antics. In my opinion, your behaviour appears
both narcissistic and attention-seeking, in the extreme. Whether it is at a
level at which one could view it as pathological, I am not sufficiently
qualified to say, but it is my view that ‘the man on the Clapham omnibus’ may,
reasonably, harbour suspicions.
and an even deeper concern for the future of our freedom of speech, generally,
that I have viewed your recent antics. In my opinion, your behaviour appears
both narcissistic and attention-seeking, in the extreme. Whether it is at a
level at which one could view it as pathological, I am not sufficiently
qualified to say, but it is my view that ‘the man on the Clapham omnibus’ may,
reasonably, harbour suspicions.
Your ambush of Ken Livingstone, with
pre-arranged media presence is a case in point. Any less reasonable man may
have told you to ‘clear off’. Instead he tried, in a calm manner, to point out
the historical evidence to support what he had said. His words fell on (your)
deaf ears, for you, of course, had decided already that he ‘would float if you
threw him in the river’ (the test applied, historically, vis a vis witchcraft).
Cynical observers too, may, possibly, take the view that you are attempting, on
behalf of others, to airbrush history, in the name of anti-Semitism.
pre-arranged media presence is a case in point. Any less reasonable man may
have told you to ‘clear off’. Instead he tried, in a calm manner, to point out
the historical evidence to support what he had said. His words fell on (your)
deaf ears, for you, of course, had decided already that he ‘would float if you
threw him in the river’ (the test applied, historically, vis a vis witchcraft).
Cynical observers too, may, possibly, take the view that you are attempting, on
behalf of others, to airbrush history, in the name of anti-Semitism.
Are you not aware
of the potential of historical resonance here? Let’s, for the sake of argument,
turn history on its head and assume that the Nazis had won WW2. You can imagine,
can you not, that they would want to stamp out any reference to the ‘Final
Solution’? After all, political opponents in actual historical fact had already
gone to the extermination camps, along with the mentally ill, those with
learning difficulty, Roma and the Jewish community. So, one might imagine that
the Nazis might encourage the denunciation of those who would wish to speak the
truth, as ‘Jew lovers’ and make them targets for ‘neutralisation’. Do you take
my point? Thankfully, such a situation never came about, thanks to the
sacrifice of over 400,000 people, including my own brother, (and many more from
other nations) who gave their lives to preserve our freedom of speech.
Let me now refer
to matters In connection with Jackie Walker, the former vice-chair of Momentum
and with whom we share membership of the Labour Party. I do not wish to refer
to the specifics of the matter as her appeal against suspension from the Party
is pending, (although the issue of the circumstances of her ‘entrapment’ and ‘denunciation’,
are deeply worrying to me). However, your comments that all Labour members who
supported her “should be expelled from the Party,” which were reported in the
media, absolutely appalled me. The implied ‘guilt by association’ is akin to
the ‘fellow traveller’ accusations made during the McCarthyite era in the USA.
Shame on you.
There seems to be
a desire, on your part, to conflate (i.e. run together as if they represent the
same meaning), the words and concepts of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism. Or
perhaps you are just confused? I never have been. To me anti-Zionism represents
political opposition to a style of social and political expression stemming
from a particular religious interpretation of Judaism. Anti-Semitism, on the
other hand, refers to a dislike of Jews, which is rooted in the same xenophobic
soil as other forms of racism. When this is openly displayed, we, in Britain
have anti-discrimination laws, including those relating to hate speech.
Now…the application of and efficacy of our legislation is a matter open for
debate and is something you can, potentially, influence as an MP. Why then, at
this present time, are you focusing your attention on the Labour Party?
That brings me to
the issue of the political motivation for your actions. It has been suggested
that your prime motivation, given your position on the right-wing of the Labour
Party, is to attempt to undermine the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn and all that
he stands for. I was a committed and experienced member of the Socialist Medical/Health
Association (affiliated) since 1946 and have been a member of the Labour Party
since 1972, or thereabouts. As such, I find it difficult not to agree with such
a conclusion, in the current circumstances. No doubt your fairly regular visits
to Israel (as a consequence of your documented links with organisations and
individuals there) must be enjoyable for you on a personal level, but would
not, surely, be sufficient incentive, in of themselves?
No…. my view is
that, to use military terms, you represent a sniper with a long range rifle,
‘softening up’ the enemy, causing confusion in the opposing ranks, picking off
individuals and making people afraid of putting their head above the
barricades. You are, however, in my view, waiting for your ‘General’ a.k.a.
Tony Blair to come and rally the troops for a counter-offensive. I admire your
loyalty to him, but would point out that he doesn’t have an awfully good record
militarily. That poor record had quite a lot to do with the allies he chose, or
was coerced by (in that regard it was interesting to see Mr Blairs’ presence,
almost as if he were still a head of state, at the recent funeral of Shimon
Peres, in Israel).
So there we have
it….I have concern about the nature of your personal behaviour: I am a Corbyn
supporter, and have great sympathy with the situation of Ken Livingstone and
Jackie Walker, to whom I offer my solidarity: I am also not afraid to look to
history for lessons and I view your actions as being ‘McCarthyite’ in nature: I
refuse to conflate Anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism and I see through your cloak
of justification and heap scorn upon your underlying political motivation……
So, please feel
free to denounce me, though, I suspect, that you lack the moral and political
courage to do so.
Throughout my 90
years, I have always held to a belief in the essential goodness of people. That
belief has been severely tested in recent times, as I have witnessed your
machinations and those of the Labour PLP.
Today, the mere
demands of day to day living tax me greatly, but with all the energy I can
muster, at the age of 90 years, I offer you, Sir, unfortunately, not fraternal
wishes, but my heartfelt derision.
Dr Sam Glatt MCRS
LRCP MB ChB
British,
Socialist Jew.
John Mann MP,
House of Commons,
London, SW1A 0AA
Cc Jeremy Corbyn
MP, Leader of the Labour Party, [email protected]
Ken Livingstone,
Jackie Walker
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