CST’s Mark Gardner Dishonestly Quotes Me to Support the Banning of Southampton International Law Conference
My attention has been drawn by Gert and Brian Robinson to the use by Mark Gardner of
the Zionist ‘charity’ the Communist Security Trust of certain comments I made
regarding Oren ben-Dor, the Southampton University lecturer who has helped
organise the Israel and International Law Conference.
The comments which I made, some 7 years ago, were in the
context of ben-Dor’s support for Gilad Atzmon.
context of ben-Dor’s support for Gilad Atzmon.
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| Oren ben-Dor |
Gardner quotes selectively from a much longer post to
support the decision of Southampton University to ban a conference on Israel and
International Law from being held on campus.
The reason it has been banned is because of health and safety concerns,
i.e. Zionist threats of violence.
support the decision of Southampton University to ban a conference on Israel and
International Law from being held on campus.
The reason it has been banned is because of health and safety concerns,
i.e. Zionist threats of violence.
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| When the UCU won an employment tribunal against a Zionist academic Gardner called the Tribunal members ‘sneering bastards’ |
I want to make it clear that there is no connection between
the Conference at Southampton University and my previous criticism of Oren
ben-Dor. Mark Gardner is being his usual hypocritical and dishonest self in
seeking to associate the two. There is
no connection and Oren ben-Dor is, in any event, one of four organisers of the
Conference. More pertinent has been the failure of the CST to oppose the EDL’s presence on Zionist demonstrations.
the Conference at Southampton University and my previous criticism of Oren
ben-Dor. Mark Gardner is being his usual hypocritical and dishonest self in
seeking to associate the two. There is
no connection and Oren ben-Dor is, in any event, one of four organisers of the
Conference. More pertinent has been the failure of the CST to oppose the EDL’s presence on Zionist demonstrations.
‘Oren Ben-Dor is an ex-Israeli and a law lecturer at the
University of Southampton. He is also someone who has aligned himself with a
small, anti-Semitic current on the fringes of the Palestinian movement.’
University of Southampton. He is also someone who has aligned himself with a
small, anti-Semitic current on the fringes of the Palestinian movement.’
Having subsequently met Oren Ben-Dor I formed the opinion
that he was clearly misguided regarding Atzmon but was not personally anti-Semitic. If anything he was taken in by Atzmon’s
pretentious philosophical gobbledydook, as is evident in his article The Silencing of Gilad Atzmon
that he was clearly misguided regarding Atzmon but was not personally anti-Semitic. If anything he was taken in by Atzmon’s
pretentious philosophical gobbledydook, as is evident in his article The Silencing of Gilad Atzmon
Ironically the criticism by Gardner of what Oren ben-Dor
writes, on the CST’s web site (the CST is supposed to be a non-political
charity), echoes that which the Zionists argue.
writes, on the CST’s web site (the CST is supposed to be a non-political
charity), echoes that which the Zionists argue.
Gardner says that ‘They [Atzmon and ben-Dor] both hold up
Jewish anti-Zionists as some kind of ultimate supposed proof that Zionism can
only be fundamentally understood (and more importantly opposed) as an extension
of Jewishness.’ But of course Zionists
too argue that Zionism and being Jewish are one and the same, and that Jewish anti-Zionists
are ‘self-haters’ i.e. hate their race and nation.
Jewish anti-Zionists as some kind of ultimate supposed proof that Zionism can
only be fundamentally understood (and more importantly opposed) as an extension
of Jewishness.’ But of course Zionists
too argue that Zionism and being Jewish are one and the same, and that Jewish anti-Zionists
are ‘self-haters’ i.e. hate their race and nation.
Gardner confirms this when he says that ‘Most left wing
anti-israel activists anxiously manufacture distance between Zionists and Jews
(i.e. between anti-Zionism and antisemitism).’
In other words that there is no distance or distinction between Zionists
and Jews and left-wing anti-Israel activists therefore have to manufacture such
distance. Which is exactly what Atzmon argues!
anti-israel activists anxiously manufacture distance between Zionists and Jews
(i.e. between anti-Zionism and antisemitism).’
In other words that there is no distance or distinction between Zionists
and Jews and left-wing anti-Israel activists therefore have to manufacture such
distance. Which is exactly what Atzmon argues!
Gardner says that ben-Dor ‘goes further, suggesting that
Nazi perpetrators were somehow captives of a deeper historical force that may
repeat in the future.’ But this was
always the Zionist attitude to the holocaust. It was but the culmination
of 2,000 years of anti-Semitism.
Nazi perpetrators were somehow captives of a deeper historical force that may
repeat in the future.’ But this was
always the Zionist attitude to the holocaust. It was but the culmination
of 2,000 years of anti-Semitism.
Despite quoting me in support of the banning of the
Southampton Law Conference (which of course I oppose) Gardner proves how little
distance there is between Zionist ideologues such as himself and the anti-Semitic
Gilad Atzmon.
Southampton Law Conference (which of course I oppose) Gardner proves how little
distance there is between Zionist ideologues such as himself and the anti-Semitic
Gilad Atzmon.
Tony Greenstein
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