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Hagi Ben-Artzi: Unfortunately, the Israeli government, including my
brother-in-law Benjamin Netanyahu, they unfortunately, I am sad to say that,
agreed to the 2-state-solution. And here I must say that I have read very
carefully, I have also taken part with my brother-in-law in writing his book,
and in his famous book “A Place Among the Nations”, he writes
very clearly against the establishment of a Palestinian state. What I feel is
that he made a manoeuvre,  some kind of tactics: “I say
that I agree, but I will act against it.” I don’t think that it’s a
good move, although it’s regarded (as) sophisticated. But I have said, I have
told him several times: You have to be sincere. And I believe, and I know in
his heart and in his mind he is against a Palestinian state.

Reporter: So, what you are saying is that your brother-in-law, Prime
Minister Netanyahu, is essentially lying to the world when he says he believes
in the two states, that he doesn’t believe in two states at all and certainly
doesn’t believe in an independent Palestinian state

Hagi Ben-Artzi: I think that what he is trying to do is to say
“I agree”, but to set conditions that he believes will be absolutely
unacceptable to the Palestinian side. And as a result “I will be good, the
international community will say: Oh, he’s supporting peace because he’s in
favour of a Palestinian state.” But in fact it won’t happen, because he
sets so many conditions that it makes it impossible, practically
speaking.  So it’s not really lying. He’s saying “I’m in
favour”. For example, I’m in favour of flying in the air. But on condition
that you give me a plane. You’re not going to give me a plane so I won’t fly in
the air. Something like this. But my dispute with him is that I think that it
makes bad pubic relations; it’s a bad propaganda. You have to be sincere and
authentic and you can say clearly what you really believe. That the Palestinian
state is not justified on historical basis, on religious, national and also
strategic and economic, whatever… ”