|John Mann Portrayed by the Richard Desmond’s Express as the Innocent Victim|
|Phil Woolas – ex-New Labour Immigration Minister Thrown Out by Electoral Court – Campaign based on making Whites ‘Angry’ – Best Friend of John Mann MP|
UPDATE: John Mann now denies he is a Zionist but his record on the subject is crystal clear.
One thing John Mann
MP cannot be accused of is being too clever by half, the term used by the Marquess
of Salisbury about the then Tory Shadow Chancellor Iain McLeod (originally used
to describe Disraeli).
|Portrait of a New Labour Opportunist|
|Woolas’s Leaflet – Racist to the Core – John Mann Stood by Him Regardless|
MP Complains of being called a Zionist Scumbag’ subtitled ‘Which did he object
to? Zionist or Scumbag?’ I focussed
attention on one John Mann MP, who’s been waging a one man vendetta against Jeremy
Corbyn. Not being a subtle man, he took
to suggesting Jeremy was soft on child abuse.
|The Hard Done-by Mann|
Matthew Norman of the Independent, because of his habit of commenting on
anything and everything, John Mann is not known for his cerebral
brilliance. In other words he’s thick. After protesting loudly at the fact that I
made the, fairly obvious point to someone who’s not Jewish, that he might not
really understand what anti-Semitism is, he protested at how dare I challenge
his right to self-identity.
|Interview with Jewish Chronicle when Mann Declares Himself non-Jewish|
am not a relativist. I don’t believe
there is any inalienable right to self-identify and not have that identity
challenged. If I say I am a visitor from
Jupiter I would expect people to challenge this rather than have anti-Jupiterism
as the next form of anti-racist multi-cultural smooching. So I did a google search and guess what? Mann himself identifies as non-Jewish! In his interview in
the Jewish Chronicle with Simon Round of 12 February 2009 which begins ‘Labour
MP John Mann is not Jewish’. It continues ‘There may be nothing Jewish in
his background but… Indeed, he is adamant that the fight against antisemitism
should be led by non-Jews.’ http://www.thejc.com/lifestyle/the-simon-round-interview/interview-john-mann-mp
sensitive creature and of late he has been complaining that he is being targeted for abuse. Labour to investigate after MP called ‘Zionist scumbag’
for opposing Jeremy Corbyn
Parliamentary Group against Antisemitism and
came to my attention when the debate took place over the European Monitoring
Committees Definition of Anti-Semitism, which was a Zionist definition which
conflated criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism. But John Mann understands nothing about anti-Semitism
though he poses as an expert. The most
skilful putdown of him and his collaborator, the corrupt ex-MP Dennis McShane was
by the Chairman of the Employment Tribunal in Fraser v UCU (where the lecturers
union were accused of ‘anti-semitism’ for boycotting Israeli universities):
“We did not
derive assistance from the two Members of Parliament who appeared before us.
Both gave glib evidence, appearing supremely confident of the rightness of
their positions. For Dr MacShane, it seemed that all answers lay in the
MacPherson Report (the effect of which he appeared to misunderstand). Mr Mann
could manage without even that assistance. He told us that the leaders of the
Respondents were at fault for the way in which they conducted debates but did
not enlighten us as to what they were doing wrong or what they should be doing
differently. He did not claim ever to have witnessed any Congress or other UCU
meeting. And when it came to anti-Semitism in the context of debate about the
Middle East, he announced, “It’s clear to me where the line is …” but
unfortunately eschewed the opportunity to locate it for us. Both
parliamentarians clearly enjoyed making speeches. Neither seemed at ease with
the idea of being required to answer a question not to his liking.”
vigorous email debate today and I thought I should share the contents with
others, so it is copied below. Incidentally one nugget of information I found was that John Mann was a political ally of Phil Woolas, the disgraced former
New Labour MP and Minister whose election was overturned by an electoral court in
2010. Woolas had been a particularly
nasty and racist immigration minister and in the fight against the Liberal Democrats in
his Oldham East & Saddleworth constituency, one e-mail in the debate within
his election team stated, that ‘“If we don’t get the white folk angry he
[Woolas]’s gone.” This was the
basis of the election campaign that Woolas fought. This played to anti-Islamic racism in a
constituency which had already seen race riots.
though he is, had no hesitation in supporting Phil Woolas when he was suspendedby Harriet Harman. ‘Among those to have spoken out in support of Woolas was John Mann, a close
friend of his.’
that operate within the Zionist supporting community of Labour MPs these days. Racists to a Mann.
to? Being called a scumbag, when that would seem a more than appropriate
description of someone who alleges that Jeremy Corbyn is soft on child abuse?
you use the term ‘anti-Semitism’ as a form of abuse of those, Jewish included,
who criticise Israel and Zionism. To use a Yiddish word, it is something
of a chutzpah for a non-Jew to accuse Jews of ‘anti-Semitism’, but well let
understand the word, is a political movement that sought to establish a Jewish
state by accepting the anti-Semitic notion that Jews don’t belong in the
countries they were born in.
anti-Semitism is really a means of attacking critics of Zionism and Israel,
since it has nothing to say about the far-Right, which is where anti-Semitism
comes from. But as someone who is not even Jewish, you wouldn’t
understand what anti-Semitism is about in any case.
‘scumbag’ being combined? I am puzzled.
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appointed to the Chair of Parliament’s anti-Semitism Committee? You don’t
have a clue as to what racism or anti-Semitism is. When was the last time
you spoke up about asylum seekers? It’s people like Jeremy Corbyn who
have spoken up against the treatment of refugees. You are a New Labour
forefront of opposing Jewish refugees from Czarist Russia entry into this
country and in 1938 you would have stood alongside the Daily ‘Hate’ Mail
in opposing the entry of Jewish refugees from Nazi Germany.
oppose. Your anti-Semitism is solely concerned with opposition to Israel
and Zionist racism. You stand full square with Netanyahu and his concern
that ‘droves’ of Arabs are voting or Deputy Defence Minister Eli Dahan who
believes that Arabs are ‘beasts that aren’t human’.
alongside him and I spoke at his commemoration meeting after he had died (and I
reprimanded the Engage group’s attempt to exploit Steve’s memory). Steve
and myself were the targets of fascist violence whereas you and New Labour
condemned fascists and anti-fascists as the same. Steve was a supporter,
as I am, of No Borders. People like you want to make Europe into a
Fortress against immigrants.
the anti-Zionist camp holding that a Jewish state was inevitably a racist
state. According to your Committee he was also, no doubt, an anti-Semite.
split in Socialist organiser. You cannot move beyond your Trotskyist mentality.
It dominates your mind
right as from ultra left.
national action target this spring?
every issue- I don’t hide on obscure websites.
by its victims. Interesting position.
are defining any bodies identity?
nothing of me, my family or my background. I will identify myself not you
used to call you tony greenslime, something that indicated to me a in built
Jews who received such casual racism
Jewish refugees, I recommend you buy my book on anti Semitism.
Ashworth . You are not and never will be a steve Cohen and if you were to use
his book as a campaign tool….
on the beach, it will help
at least 3 books. I assume you mean his book on ‘left
anti-Semitism’. I have a copy of it and I disagree with much of its
political analysis. A strange concept to you no doubt.
right and further right, the closet supporters of imperialism and the invasion
of Iraq and the open supporters of imperialism and the invasion of Iraq?
I am not interested in a tiny ex-Trotskyite sect like SO/AWL and Jane Ashworth
who has long abandoned any pretensions of being on the Left.
political matters I assume you too were a supporter of Bush & Blair’s
genocidal invasion of Iraq and will therefore take responsibility for all that
happened, such as the growth of Isis and Sunni Fundamentalism. No doubt
you still support the alliance with Saudi Arabia as well as Israel (which also
supports Al Qaeda group al-Nusra as well as Isis).
far-right. He represents nothing, absolutely nothing. Likewise
National Action. The main fascist groups in this country – BNP and EDL –
are both ardent supporters of Israel and no doubt agree with everything you say
whilst in practice supporting the main agents of anti-Muslim racism. Did
you oppose Labour’s ‘anti-terrorist’ legislation that criminalised
thought? A step taken even further now with Theresa May’s attack on
‘extremism’ which is introducing the method of the Police state into schools
and universities, with vetting of speakers? You have opposed none of
this. New Labour prepared the ground for all that is following in terms
of civil liberties and naked racism. You helped build the Jihadist groups
with your support for attacking Iraq and Afghanistan. You then have the
audacity to trumpet some minor chairing of an FA committee. Pathetic.
invasion root and branch alongside that giant of the socialist left, Tony
Benn. You were always part of the New Labour cast that used the
defamatory scarecrow of ‘anti-Semitism’ to attack opponents of Israel’s
murderous and horrendous racism. A racism which ends up in the burning
alive of an 18 month old child.
Matthew Norman has his views spread everywhere. Unfortunately they lack
any substance. Of course I don’t suggest racism should be opposed only by
its victims but when people who are not victims of racism take it upon themselves
to try and define that racism, anti-Semitism in this case, in order to use it
as a stick to beat those who are the victims of a far greater evil, then I
certainly step in.
you are not Jewish. That is a fact. Perhaps in your sojourn around
the media you have forgotten your interview in the Jewish Chronicle with Simon
Round of 12 February 2009 which begins ‘Labour MP John Mann is not
Jewish’. It continues ‘There may be nothing Jewish in his background but…
Indeed, he is adamant that the fight against antisemitism should be led by
it has been done by people from right to left) doesn’t mean that they are
anti-Semitic. Merely puerile like your good self.
book. My own book on fighting fascism in Brighton and the South Coast is
of far greater interest. These days books on anti-Semitism are two
a penny. What I judge is your record. You were, as I have
already pointed out, heavily criticised by the Employment Judge in Fraser
v UCU. Because when it came to it allegations by you of anti-Semitism
could not be backed up, because there was no anti-Semitism. And therein
lies the rub. Accusations of anti-Semitism that are false and made for
naked political ends by the Right, to defeat a Boycott of Israel for its
Apartheid policies, are extremely damaging. Like the boy who cried wolf
you actually help legitimise anti-Semitism (of the real kind).
of Palestinians and why we support boycott. The fact that the Dawabshe
family in Duma, West Bank, two of whom have died because of the firebombing,
will not receive anti-terrorist compensation because they are not Jewish and on
the West Bank there are 2 sets of laws i.e. Apartheid.
or lease 93% of land in Israel because they are not Jewish nationals or that
Arab stone throwers can be gaoled now for 20 years whereas settlers who throw
stones receive no penalty. Or that the Chief Rabbi of Safed, Shmuel
Eliyahu receives no penalty for issuing an edict against letting out flats or
apartments to non-Jews and Arabs (oh he was criticised by Netanyahu when the
publicity spotlight was on him but he is still paid a state salary as befits a
rabbi in Israel). Or why the authors of Torat HaMelech by 2 rabbis inc.
Yitzhak Shapira are not prosecuted for writing a book detailing when it is
permissible to kill non-Jews yea even infants. And then tell me that
Boycotting such a state is ‘anti-Semitic’.
person. Steve and I had a comradely relationship and we became closer
over the years. You can read my obituary on my blog. We were both
of the Left. You are not which is why Steve would have chosen me above
you any day of the week. Steve would have had contempt for you and the
tragedy is that you don’t understand why he wouldn’t support a New Labour MP.
support the above, that I would even divulge to you in open correspondence
because I have too much respect for him. And it is because I respected
Steve, and vicer versa, that we could disagree.
ex-Immigration Minister Phil Woolas. Thrown out by an Electoral Court
for trying too hard to make ‘Whites Angry’. You stood by him through
thick and thin. No doubt part of your anti-Islamaphobia campaign?
24 August 2015 at 06:09, MANN, John;[email protected];
any definition of the word , you cannot evidence me being a Zionist on your
me. Interesting. ( and many others do the same)
chair a committee on anti Semitism
challenging anti Semitism on the left
define yourself as a Zionist, however that does not mean you aren’t a
Zionist. Having been an active anti-fascist for over 30 years, unlike
your good self, nearly all members of the National Front and BNP that I came
across denied they were fascists. They purported to be ‘patriots’.
However fascists they were and are – and a Zionist you are.
someone who supports the Zionist movement and its creation, the State of
Israel. There is no doubt that you fit into that category and the best
example of that is the Report of the All-Party Parliamentary Inquiry into
Antisemitism which you chaired in 2014.
classic example of the ‘new anti-Semitism’. It took evidence almost
wholly from Zionists. I recognise just one person who might possibly come
under the rubric of a non-Zionist. The eminent expert in how the term
anti-Semitism is misused, notably in the European Monitoring Committee’s
Working Definition of anti-Semitism, which you approve of, Dr Brian Klug is a
notable omission. So too is Tony Lerman, the former Director and founder
of the Institute of Jewish Policy Research, who was forced out of his job for
not toeing the Zionist line on matters such as ‘anti-Semitism’.
complains about the fact that people associate British Jews with what Israel
does. In itself a fair comment, but not once does it make even the
tiniest criticism of the Board of Deputies of British Jews who strenuously seek
to align British Jewry with Israel’s crimes, proudly proclaiming that British
Jews support Israel. It is no wonder that some misguided people do
therefore equate Jews with Israeli war crimes when Jewish representative
bodies, albeit not as representative as they believe themselves to be, do their
best to make such connections.
House of Lords, a cross bench peer’s comments that “much antisemitism is a
reaction to the appalling Israeli treatment of its Arab neighbours” were
roundly condemned by others attending the debate. Why? It’s obvious
from the spike in anti-Semitic incidents that you draw attention to that the two are related.
quite disingenuously, seeks to associate the Boycott of Israel with anti-Semitism.
As someone who has proudly taken part in a number of Boycott activities,
including those which closed the Ahava shop in London and Sodastream in
Brighton, as well as the disruption of Israel’s Philharmonic Orchestra at the
Proms, I cannot see there is a trace of anti-Semitism therein. Boycott
actions are directed at Israeli commercial concerns not at Jewish ones, despite
your conflation of the two.
you turned up at the Fraser v UCU Employment Tribunal, where you were
roundly criticised by the Tribunal, to give evidence that UCU had been
anti-Semitic for boycotting Israeli universities, institutions that provide
support and backup to the military occupation of the West Bank and Gaza,
demonstrates in itself where your sympathies lie.
of the Tricycle Theatre for having initially refused to sponsor a Jewish Film
Festival because it received Israeli Embassy funding, even though it said it
would provide the equivalent subsidy itself, apparently ’caused shock and tremendous
concern’ to those who gave evidence to you. It is a pity that they
weren’t shocked and concerned by the death of over 2,000 people in Gaza as a
result of the actions of the Israeli government, which the Embassy represents.
may be due to ignorance rather than malevolence, you report that the
Home Secretary spoke out against antisemitism at a Conservative Friends of
Israel even. Perhaps, given your remit is anti-Semitism, you could have
focussed on the fact that CFI has previously invited noted anti-Semites such as
Michal Kaminski, a Polish MEP who has campaigned against a Polish apology for
Jedwabne or Robert Zile MEP of Latvia, who marches annually with the
Waffen SS veterans. But then that would be embarrassing since Israel has
strong links with all manner of pro-Zionist anti-Semites.
John Prescott MP for writing in his Sunday Mirror column that Gaza was
comparable to a concentration camp and that “What happened to the Jewish people
at the hands of the Nazis is appalling. But you would think those atrocities
would give Israelis a unique sense of perspective and empathy with the victims
of a ghetto” para. 167
naming three children killed in Gaza were left outside a prominent Jewish
centre in North West London, deliberately in time for Jewish schoolchildren
being collected from a summer scheme to see them.’ para. 128
to do with anti-Semitism?
critics as ‘anti-Semites’ is a standard Zionist trope. Telling Jewish
anti-Zionists that it is a pity they didn’t die in the holocaust and other
abuse, is another form of Zionist anti-Semitism. One lovely example,
among many, that I have received at my blog was:
‘It’s a shame that either Hitler or the Angel of Death, missed your family’s
house. Or Neturei Karta’s. Don’t even call yourself a Jew,traitor.’
percentage of anti-Semitic comments comes from Zionists but that would be
inconvenient to you or your fellow travellers.
ask for evidence that you are a Zionist, you might now understand why your
Report more than fits the bill.
you were one of the Labour MPs not to support the creation of a Palestinian
state and I am unaware, though no doubt you will provide some evidence to the
contrary if you have any, that you have ever raised your voice in opposition to
what Israel does in stealing the land of the Palestinians and killing thousands
about ‘anti-Semitism’ is entirely devoted to the cause of Zionism which is why
the firm of Mishcon De Reya provided you with pro bono support, as they did in
the Fraser v UCU case.